Greetings from Yogyakarta, at the IEEE TALE 2019 engineering education conference, where Professor Minjuan Wang, San Diego State University has been speaking on new forms of learning. She took us through the evolution of classroom based, online, mobile, cloud, and blended leaning, as well as use of virtual, augmented, and blended reality. While citing studies predicting the future dominance of online leaning, Professor Minjuan Wang pointed out that qualifications based on-line learning are not well accepted in China. At question time I asked how acceptance of online learning could be increased. The response was this will take time as the results are shown.